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Chillin' with Lovespirals #27

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Anji and Ryan are back with the latest band news, more music geekery, and listener feedback.

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new computer blues over, i hope

i’ve had my mac mini back for close to a week now and so far so good. the apple store repair person said bad ram and possibly a bad logic board, which they replaced, were responsible for the troubles. i thought the hard disk was messed up since the i was unable to boot up from the drive and data was missing. i did a little goolgling on the matter and learned that bad ram can lead to drive problems, so i hope they were right. i must say that apple handled this wonderfully the whole way through and got the repair done fairly quickly, even though i took it on a friday night and thanksgiving/black friday was on the following thursday/friday.

so other than that, the mac mini has been a kick ass computer. small as a portable drive, powerful as huge desktop computer. space is limited in my studio, where the mini lives, so i fully appreciate it’s size to power ratio. this makes me think; whenever i may upgrade our main studio computer, a g4 tower running protools 24, i may get a mac mini. suppose i do this in two years; the minis by then will be perhaps twice as powerful as my current mini. if and when that happens, i’ll get a few more cubic feet of space back in here.

Gearwire Artist Feature: On Pro Tools, GarageBand, And Pitch Correction

November 28, 2006, Gearwire Artist Feature, Patrick Ogle:

“On Pro Tools, GarageBand, And Pitch Correction: Lovespirals’ Ryan Lum And Anji Bee”

Ryan Lum has been making electronic based music for a decade and a half. First working with Suzanne Perry in shoegazer/ambient/electronica band Love Spirals Downwards and now in the successor project Lovespirals with new vocalist Anji Bee.

Lum’s music has ranged from the beautiful, meandering, shoegazing of Love Spirals Downwards to the new project’s fusion of downtempo and electronic jazz. Between the two bands Lum has released 9 full length releases and one single. Yet despite this electronica pedigree, Lum and Bee often eschew the electronic cutting edge for what some might consider old-fashioned [musical values]. Lum especially eschews the over-use of plug-ins.

“Two big reasons I don’t go crazy with audio plug ins and all: first, my computer is a bit old and a bit too slow and outdated for going nuts with that stuff.” says Lum “Second, I don’t really need them beyond basic stuff like compressors. I’d rather use a good rackmount reverb than a plug-in. Plus, some plug-ins just sounds horrible.”

Lum has used ProTools 24 TDM hardware since 1999 with his Apple Tower and a three year old copy of ProTools 6.

“It’d be nice to get a new TDM system, but you need around $10,000 to make it happen so that’s the main reason why I’ve kept what I have,” says Lum. “But honestly, there’s no real ‘need’ to upgrade though they try to make you believe you need to. The only real thing I’m missing out on is that the newer systems have way more power and can run tons more plug ins.”

Since he isn’t a big fan of plug-ins the trade of works for him. A Lovespirals’ song usually begins when Lum comes up with something interesting on the guitar and then he lays down a quick sketch on an iPod or Garageband so it can be referenced later. Sometimes Bee writes lyrics to fit these sketches and sometimes the lyrics are the starting point Lum works around.

“The funny thing is that sometimes I’ll write lyrics based around some music he’s playing, only to end up tucking them away and using them with a completely different piece of music later on. It’s all very fluid. “ says Bee.

In ProTools, Lum starts with playing guitar to figure out the tempo of the song. After that he puts a “super basic” drum track together and loops it for the length of the song so there is a track to play along with and the song gets built up from there. Lum plays all the instruments while Bee does the vocals.

“I’m really a guitar player. I’ve been playing since I was like in 2nd or 3rd grade. My parents bought me a Gibson Les Paul Standard when I was high school. I still use it a lot.” says Lum. “For the past few years though I’ve been into Fenders. I have a Telecaster and a couple Strats. I have a 1968 Fender Bassman head which I run through an 1960’s Jensen speaker that’s in an old Univox combo amp. So yeah, I love old tube amps.”

The upcoming Lovespirals album that is being recorded now is inspired by the magic Lum hears when he plays through tube amps. Despite the love of vintage tube amps and the sounds generated by older gear that are dear to him Lum is ambivalent about the use of tape in recording.

“I really like being able to go in and edit things in a way that would be impractical with tape,” says Lum. “Plus, I’ve never owned a great tape machine. In the 90’s I used a Tascam 388, which was a low-end 8 track recorder and mixer. Even though tape is supposed to sound better, and I know that it does, my ProTools system sounds much better than the Tascam, which I bought for $3000 back in the day. Plus, I love the automation in ProTools. That’s something I only could dream about in the 90’s since only hundred thousand dollar mixing consoles could do that then.”

And cost is always an issue with home recording. If price is no object then you are likely make your living on something other than music (with few exceptions professional musicians tend to spend a lot of time chasing dollars as a matter of survival).

“Pro studios can afford to have the best stuff, but we at home have to get the best bang for the buck. I believe you should try to get a good microphone and a good mic pre-amp, the best you can afford. Assuming you set it all up in a good way and record a great performance, you’ll get a nice sounding recording,” says Lum. “I think that’ll go a long way towards making your recordings sound great. I’d also suggest getting a good hardware reverb. You can find used Lexicon PCM 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s for pretty cheap these days and they all sound way better than reverb plug ins. Plus you know it’ll work after your next ProTools upgrade.”

Knowing your gear and having sound engineering skills are the best way to avoid all of the virtually endless list of things that can go wrong recording. By sound engineering skills Lum doesn’t mean you need to get a degree, rather learn to use your ears.

“It’s so easy these days to record at home but too many home recordings sounds like home recordings. Knowing how or where to place a mic to get a good sound is a big one,” says Lum. “My advice is to keep moving it around until it sounds good. That’s really what sound engineering is all about: learning to really listen, to really use your ears.”

Lum and Bee both have one technological bogeyman they see lurking in professional recording and mainstream music; AutoTune.

“Pitch correction software like AutoTune is killing music. You can hear a freaky robotic quality when it’s used,” says Lum. “Before its invention, you’d record more takes until the singer got it right. Unfortunately, I suspect many of the singers who use AutoTune aren’t really great singers, so they kind of need it.”

Bee agrees but says the scourge has spread out of the mainstream and into underground music as well.

“I hear it creeping into every genre of music, not just pop and dance music. I think it’s really too bad that singers don’t take the time to perfect their craft organically. Just do a second take, for crying out loud!” says Bee. “Besides which, I find it creepy how AutoTuned vocals tend to sound alike. It takes so much of the human element out of vocals that I feel it strips away emotion. Imagine if they had pitch corrected Astrid Gilberto!”

Last year the band started the Chillin’ with Lovespirals band podcast, and this year Bee began a music podcast called The Chillcast with Anji Bee for PodShow.

“We’ve found that podcasting creates a whole new set of audio recording situations that have taken up a pretty good chunk of time to solve. That’s practically a whole other interview! “says Bee.

See the original interview on Gearwire.com

Check out Patrick Ogle’s band, Thanatos

Chillin’ with Lovespirals #26

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Ryan and Anji update you in the saga of Ryan’s new Mac Mini and how it affects progress on Lovespirals’ current recording sessions, reminisce about sneaking into NAMM, share Ryan’s “second choice” theory, make a big podcast announcement, and answer listener email, as Anji tries not to cough into the mic.

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new computer blues

no, i didn’t make a blues song with my new computer. we’ll actually i did sort of. on the latest song we’re recording, i turned the mac mini into a virtual minimoog synthesizer and recorded what i was playing manually via a usb keyboard right into protools. but what i’m really talking about here is how this new computer, which i’ve had just 4 weeks, is already in the shop getting repaired. the hard drive is bad. even the repair person at the apple store seemed really surprised that this would happen on such a new machine.

so i’m back to using old and slow computers in the meantime. at least i can still do basic stuff, like web and email. but no more minimoog in the meantime. i seem to have bad luck when getting computers. the ibook that i’m writing from right now smells like bad body odor because apple used crappy plastic back back in the day.

Chillin’ with Lovespirals Episode 25

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In this fun Halloween episode the band chat about the evils of CRT monitors and B.O. iBooks, their scary LA Day of the Dead trip to visit Joyce Burstein where Ryan discovers the magic of Huichol yarn paintings, plus band news, listener feedback and more!

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Help Save the World

This is Ryan here. I’m not know for my political views but I believe having a clean planet to live on when I’m old transcends politics. Next Tuesday, Californian’s have an opportunity to help save the world by voting yes on Proposition 87, which taxes oil drilling companies here and uses that money to help fund research into alternative energy resources. I’ve been doing what I can to help spread the word. It’s really pissing me off how the oil companies have spent millions on television advertisements and basically telling complete lies to try to scare people so that they won’t vote for this.

Hopefully I won’t have to wait more than another year or two to get an ethanol/flex-fuel car that can run on either ethanol or regular petroleum based gas. ethanol fuel already costs a lot less than gasoline and pollutes way less than gasoline. The real beauty is that all of our nation’s ethanol needs can be met by our farmers, so no more sending billions of dollars overseas everyday to fund questionable governments and terrorists. Basically, if a few countries stopped supplying us oil, our economy would come to a halt. Scary.

I recommend reading this blog which is written by an expert, leader, and investor in this new eco-friendly future.

Chillin’ with Lovespirals Episode 24

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Ryan and I talk about his upgrade to a Mac Mini running Parallels, the mysterious stink of his old iBook, PodShow forgetting to renew their domain, my launch of anjibee.com, plus I read a touching fan email from MySpace, share my own fan story of Robert Cray, Cocteau Twins and more.
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I finally got a new computer!

i’ve been a very bad blogger here. part of it was due to my primitive computer setup which didn’t make doing a lot of computing things fun or easy. i’ve got my main music making computer: an apple g4 tower with protools hardware. i see myself keeping that for a while still, but it’s not an ideal computer for daily net cruising for various reasons, one of which is that it can never go into sleep mode due to the protools cards not being energy star compliant.

so my awesome new computer also happens to be appple’s least expensive computer (sort of): the mac mini. the reason i say sort of is that i maxed it out with 2 gigs of ram. it’s replacing a slow apple ibook (circa 2001/2002) and a compaq desktop pc (circa 1999/2000). this little computer is cool. first, it’s about 1/20’th the size of the pc. and now that macs use intels, i’m able to run windows simultaneously with osx using a nifty program called parallels. so the pc is destined for the local electronics recycling center soon.

Chillin’ with Lovespirals Episode 23

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Ryan and Anji hop back in the saddle for a retooled post-PME extravaganza! OK, so they just added an outro song and intro script, but it’s still pretty cool… The band tell how they almost missed the Expo because of Bones, discuss recent song placements, answer fan email, announce upcoming 2007 releases and more!

Rumor Girls & AnjiAnji with Karen & Karla of The Rumor Girls
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Chillin’ with Lovespirals Episode 22

On episode 22 of the Chillin’ with Lovespirals band podcast, Anji and Ryan catch you up to date on recent band happenings. The duo start out silly, chatting about Dave Navarro and his podcast and making crackhead and porn jokes, then give an update on recording sessions for the new album despite the recent heatwave, talk about new Lovespirals music being added to Pandora, seeing Zero 7 and Jose Gonzalez at the Hollywood Bowl, Pandora adding new functionality including band bios, being bummed on the Amazon Advantage program, digital music sales vs CD sales, Anji using LaLa, the Top 5 Lovespirals downloads, read fan email from Adam and C. Bauman,  and Anji winning Podshow’s Earthlink Ad Challenge. They close out the show a clip of a their latest work-in-progress, “Lovelight”. Monster the cat makes an appearance.

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Chillin’ with Lovespirals Episode 21

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The band announce the 1 yr anniversary of the podcast (a month late), share some So Cal heatwave survival tips, review several recent films, discuss the licensing of their music on TV and cable for fitness related shows, chat about LaLa.com, read fan email, and more

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